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sportsfan1
Registered: May 04, 2009
Posts: 23

    May 04, 2009 at 05:21 PM
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After reading the forum on actions of coaches, it prompted me to write this.
Do the coaches not realize what they are teaching these girls?  Their actions
are seen by everyone on the field and off of the field.  These are young girls
who are learning especially from coaches.  They are not only learning the game, but they are learning life.  I think some of these coaches need to sit down and think about what they are doing to these girls.  These girls do not need to be treated like they are professional athletes.  The game is supposed to be fun and some of these coaches go way beyond that and are taking the fun out of the game.  How many girls don't want to play the game anymore due to a coach??????  I bet there are a lot of girls out there who just don't want to play because of a bad experience with a coach.
If there is anybody out there who has had similiar experiences or bad experiences with a coach or coaches, I would love to hear from you.

RobinMay
Registered: Nov 16, 2006
Posts: 97

    May 06, 2009 at 10:00 AM
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Sportsfan1, you make some very good points.  There are certainly coaches out there who are (in my opinion) way over the top.  I agree that some are downright abusive and should be flogged at the complex flagpole before being run out of town on a rail…but I digress.  (I can’t wait to see the picture Jmeskral finds for that one….)

 

But please indulge me while I elaborate on some of the issues that go along with your concerns.  We need to remember that as a softball community we embrace the concept of our daughters playing “competitive” ball.  In the course of my daughter’s softball career we met many players and parents with dreams of softball scholarships to wonderful schools.  They spent tons of money, not to mention time, for that fantasy. They put their daughters on some of the most competitive teams they could find to achieve that dream.  Unfortunately that level of play is almost impossible to attain in a kind and gentle way.  The most successful coaches, who produce the most successful players, are very aggressive.  They push their players to achieve their highest level of play.  If we think they are rough, we need to look at the expectations and antics of college coaches - they are far from the warm and fuzzy individuals we would like to think they are.  In a very real sense, if a player cannot stand an aggressive coach and quits competitive ball, the coach has probably done the player and and her family a favor.  Life is too short to be miserable.  Most of the girls we met in competitive ball (and there were some very talented ones) that went on to play college ball hated it and gave it up.  Certainly some of them loved it and it provided a great opportunity, but most were very disappointed.  These young ladies didn’t understand the realities of playing at the highest level; that it is very demanding, you have to push yourself, you will spend a huge amount of your time training, and frankly, you may not have the natural born athletic talent to compete at that level.  As an aside, many of those who gave up college ball told us they were most worried about disappointing their parents.  Do any of us really want our kids to be miserable because they are living out our desires?  I hope not

 

As parents we need to take responsibility for the positions into which we place our children.  There’s a few questions we need to honestly answer:

 

1.       What does our daughter want to achieve from softball? 

a.       Many girls just want a social forum.  In fact the social structure of a team often takes precedent over the athletic endeavor (whether the parents realize it or not). 

b.      I’ve coached many girls who would say “I want to be the catcher.”  I would ask them why and often found (after some digging) that they only wanted to “be” the catcher. They wanted to put on the gear and say they were the catcher.  They really didn’t want to get hot and dirty or have to use their bodies to stop wild pitches.  Needless to say, they didn’t make very good catchers.  Does your daughter want to play softball or does she just want to be on a softball team.  Does she want to “be” or does she want to “act?”  If she wants to be, don’t put her on a competitive team where an aggressive coach is going to try to force her to a level she really does not want to aspire.

c.       If your daughter’s needs and true desires are not consistent with a highly competitive team avoid the competitive coaches like the plague.

2.      What do you want for your daughter? 

a.       Do not think of your daughter’s softball as a supplemental college education fund.  999 times out of 1,000 you will be very disappointed. 

b.      We often hear about softball teaching lessons for life.  Is ‘win at all costs’ the lesson you want your daughter to learn from softball?  Is it compassion and sportsmanship?  Is it that teamwork and playing with others is paramount?  Certainly these are not mutually exclusive, but the emphasis of the team is what’s important.

3.      Will the coach on my daughter’s team meet those objectives? 

a.       I’ve seen many players bounce from team to team to team and never find the right fit.  It’s because they haven’t defined what they want.  I don’t mean to sound cruel, but I often wonder “why did you put your daughter on this guy’s team in the first place?” 

b.      Obviously, you can’t do much for the coaches your daughter’s team will face, but if everyone took the time to screen coaches, coaches would quickly learn that their ways were not acceptable.

4.      Pick the level of play, the team, and the coach that will serve your needs. 

a.       Far too often people blindly get on teams without ever giving a passing thought to how the coach acts or how the team interacts. 

b.      Get on the team that’s right for your daughter.

5.      Finally, throw away the bunk you hear about the different levels. 

a.       There is nothing wrong with your daughter playing rec ball.  There is nothing wrong with her playing at the B level.  Don’t listen to the people who will tell you that only A ball matters.  Ignore them: focus on your daughter’s happiness.  They may be very misguided about what their daughter really wants.  If your daughter is truly an A ball player, fine, put her on an A team. 

b.      In the long run, the level at which you daughter plays softball probably does not make a bit of difference. 

c.       Expect that the coaches at higher levels will be pretty intense and exactly as you have described here

 

Again, I do not mean to defend bad sportsmanship or outrageous acts by coaches.  I would, however, emphasize that as parents there is a lot we can do to make sure our daughters get what we want from the softball experience. 

StingCoach
Board Member - Paid Member 2009-10 Season
Registered: Nov 17, 2008
Posts: 259

    May 06, 2009 at 11:27 AM
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Great reply Robin. Thanks

sportsfan1
Registered: May 04, 2009
Posts: 23

    May 06, 2009 at 02:05 PM
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Robin,
Thank you for your input.  It was greatly appreciated.
You are so right about everything you said.  I hope that others take the
time and read everything you wrote down here.
Again, well said, and I, for one was glad to read it......
jjgarmatz
Paid Member 08-09 Season
Registered: July 11, 2007
Posts: 9

    May 07, 2009 at 05:56 AM
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Robin,

What you wrote was correct. Thanks for taking the time! I encourage parents to read carefully.

Thanks again!

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Joe Garmatz
teeters
Registered: June 08, 2009
Posts: 26

    July 17, 2009 at 11:36 AM
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I agree.  For a coach to be thrown out of a game....that is ridiculous, and this is happening at the 10yr level.  Be someone the girls can look up to, turn to, learn from....I don't see that much on the field.  This goes for parents too.

thatgreg123
Paid Member 09-10 Season
Registered: Jan 21, 2009
Posts: 9

    July 20, 2009 at 11:33 AM
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Fantastic post and you hit the nail right on the head. Reading this has given me a new perspective on how I will approach coaching beginning with this fall's AYL season ESPECIALLY with my daughter. I've been telling her a lot this year that if softball ever gets to a point where it's not fun and she doesn't want to play, she HAS to let me know regardless of how I will take it. There are a lot of parents/coaches like myself who preach that we're not going to be "one of those types of parents" but it's amazing how easily we become that if we're not careful and not paying attention. I have to remember that it's all about my daughter. My playing days are long over.

Mucho thanks for the post.


LoveOf
Registered: Aug 16, 2009
Posts: 2

    Aug 16, 2009 at 10:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sportsfan1


After reading the forum on actions of coaches, it prompted me to write this.
Do the coaches not realize what they are teaching these girls?  Their actions
are seen by everyone on the field and off of the field.  These are young girls
who are learning especially from coaches.  They are not only learning the game, but they are learning life.  I think some of these coaches need to sit down and think about what they are doing to these girls.  These girls do not need to be treated like they are professional athletes.  The game is supposed to be fun and some of these coaches go way beyond that and are taking the fun out of the game.  How many girls don't want to play the game anymore due to a coach??????  I bet there are a lot of girls out there who just don't want to play because of a bad experience with a coach.
If there is anybody out there who has had similiar experiences or bad experiences with a coach or coaches, I would love to hear from you.

Thank you for starting this post.  It is such a good reminder of what the game is really about.  Yea, we want to win but if its making the girls miserable what are teaching them.  I think many of us get caught up like "quebralter:, however seeing our actions and making changes is a tremendous life learning experience for all our girls.

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